{"id":756,"date":"2018-05-29T14:35:55","date_gmt":"2018-05-29T14:35:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ondrocks2000.com\/standpoint\/2018\/05\/29\/cosmos-june-2018-carlo-rovelli-italian-take-on-time-and-space\/"},"modified":"2018-05-29T14:35:55","modified_gmt":"2018-05-29T14:35:55","slug":"cosmos-june-2018-carlo-rovelli-italian-take-on-time-and-space","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ondrocks2000.com\/standpoint\/2018\/05\/29\/cosmos-june-2018-carlo-rovelli-italian-take-on-time-and-space\/","title":{"rendered":"An Italian take on time and space"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2 class=\"tws-home-title page-main-title\">An Italian take on time and space<\/h2>\n<p class=\"tws-extra-expert\">Events in the quantum world do not form an orderly queue but crowd around in a chaotic fashion<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/standpointmag.co.uk\/author\/mark_ronan\">Mark Ronan<\/a><\/p>\n<ul class=\"post-categories\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/standpointmag.co.uk\/category\/magazine\/columns\/cosmos\/\" rel=\"category tag\">Cosmos<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p> 29 May, 2018<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" class=\"img-responsive responsive--full wp-post-image\" sizes=\"(max-width: 425px) 100vw, 425px\" src=\"https:\/\/standpointmag.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/files_u28_Cosmos_rovelli.jpg\" title=\"Feature image\"\/> <\/p>\n<p>In  his famous essay on the unfortunate distrust between science and the  arts in British intellectual life, C. P. Snow wrote that he had often  been at gatherings of \u201chighly educated\u201d people \u201cwho have with  considerable gusto been expressing their incredulity at the illiteracy  of scientists. Once or twice I have been provoked and have asked the  company how many of them could describe the Second Law of  Thermodynamics. The response was cold: it was also negative. Yet I was  asking something which is the scientific equivalent of: Have you read a  work of Shakespeare\u2019s?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Indeed, the second law of thermodynamics,  that heat passes from warm things to cold things rather than the other  way round, or more precisely that available energy always tends to  become unavailable, is fundamental to our notion of time\u2019s arrow. By  contrast, Newton\u2019s physical laws work equally forwards or backwards in  time, so something has to distinguish one direction from the other and  thermodynamics does this, giving what Carlo Rovelli in his new book (<em>The  Order of Time<\/em>, Allen Lane, \u00a312.99) calls \u201cthermal time\u201d. Yet he starts  with subtleties that most of us never think about: time passes more  quickly up a mountain than it does down in the plains. This is not a  matter of perception but the simple fact that an atomic clock up a  mountain will count more nanoseconds than one on the plain. The  stronger the gravitational field the weaker the passage of time, until  on the surface of a black hole there is none at all.<\/p>\n<p>This feature of  Einstein\u2019s General Theory of Relativity is easier to grasp than the  usual \u201cspace-twins paradox\u201d of special relativity where the twin who  travels very fast out into space and back ages less than the one left at  home. Nothing travels faster than a ray of light, for which time stands  still, and Rovelli uses this to point out there is no such thing as a  present time throughout the universe. There is a here and now, but the  speed of light is not infinite and the concept of \u201cnow\u201d can only be a  local one: \u201cOur present does not extend throughout the universe. It is  like a bubble around us.\u201d If we measure time in nanoseconds the bubble  extends only a few metres, if by milliseconds it extends over thousands  of kilometres, and if we blur things to the nearest tenth of a second it  extends over the whole planet. Blurring things avoids quantum  phenomena, but time seems to vanish at the very tiniest scales and  Rovelli phrases things in picturesque terms: \u201cThe events of the world do  not form an orderly queue, like the English. They crowd around  chaotically, like the Italians . . . [things] are happening; it is not  stasis . . .\u00a0 The fundamental equations do not include a time variable,  but they do include variables that change in relation to each other.\u201d<br \/>As  well as dealing in a light-hearted way with some very serious physics,  Rovelli (who works on quantum gravity), mixes in literary references  showing that he at least straddles the cultural divisions that annoyed  Snow. He quotes Horace, Shakespeare and others, but the longest quote is  from Hugo von Hofmannsthal\u2019s wonderful libretto to Richard Strauss\u2019s  Rosenkavalier. Yet the quotation is put together from three separate  musings by the Marschallin: the first alone after Ochs has left and she  recalls her younger life, the second in conversation with Octavian as  she fears losing him, and the third from her soliloquy on the passing of  time, <em>Die Zeit die ist ein sonderbar\u2019 Ding<\/em> (Time is an extraordinary  thing). But having reached this far into the book I already had my  doubts about the presentation.<\/p>\n<p>The author starts very well with  differences in the passage of time under different gravitational field  strengths, or different states of motion, along with the direction of  time\u2019s arrow that emerges from thermodynamics, but the quantum phenomena  in chapters eight and nine are not well explained. \u201cThe theory [loop  quantum gravity] describes how things change one in respect to the  others, how things happen in the world one in relation to each other.  That\u2019s all there is to it.\u201d Surely there must be more one can say, but  in the end-note for this excerpt the author gives mathematical  formulations without adequate explanation, basically saying: I know what  I\u2019m talking about, but can\u2019t explain it to you \u2014 which is a case of  talking down to the reader.<\/p>\n<p>Earlier when he is dealing with the  light-cones of relativity theory, he alludes to the passing of a  gravitational wave creating conditions where \u201cadvancing always towards  the future, one can return to the same point in spacetime\u201d. This is time  travel, as usually understood, but we need more context to the  statement that \u201cthere is no logical contradiction entailed by the  existence of closed temporal lines or journeys into the past; we are the  ones who complicate things with our confused fantasies about the  supposed freedom of the future\u201d. Rather than explain what he\u2019s getting  at here he goes straight on to black holes: \u201cIt is the curious local  structure of the present that produces black holes.\u201d Really? I thought  it was gravity that produces black holes, and that as you approach them  the \u201clocal structure\u201d (of space-time) breaks down.<\/p>\n<p>As a popular guide  to the author\u2019s specialisation of quantum loop gravity this does not  cut the mustard. It is more a poetic meditation on the passing of time,  which ends with allusions to Augustine, the Vedas, and the Benedictus  from Beethoven\u2019s <em>Missa Solemnis<\/em>, rounding off with a quotation from  Ecclesiastes: \u201cThe silver thread is broken, the gold lantern is  shattered, the amphora at the fountain breaks, the bucket falls into the  well, the earth returns to dust.\u201d He omits the next line, \u201cand the  spirit shall return unto God who gave it\u201d, betraying a distrust of  \u201ceternalism\u201d and disbelief in anything outside spacetime. He stays  therefore very much in the realm of physics, but I would have loved more  clarity on how quantum gravity creates the time from which the author  finds his inspiration. Certainly Rovelli straddles the divide between  science and the arts, but after a strong start the arguments dissipate  about halfway through, and the book leaves scientific matters too vague.  <\/p>\n<p><a class=\"crunchify-link crunchify-twitter\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?text=An+Italian+take+on+time+and+space&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fstandpointmag.co.uk%2Fcosmos-june-2018-carlo-rovelli-italian-take-on-time-and-space%2F&amp;via=Crunchify\" target=\"_blank\"><i class=\"fab fa-twitter\"><\/i><\/a><a class=\"crunchify-link crunchify-facebook\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/sharer\/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fstandpointmag.co.uk%2Fcosmos-june-2018-carlo-rovelli-italian-take-on-time-and-space%2F\" target=\"_blank\"><i class=\"fab fa-facebook-f\"><\/i><\/a><a class=\"crunchify-link crunchify-whatsapp\" href=\"whatsapp:\/\/send?text=An+Italian+take+on+time+and+space https%3A%2F%2Fstandpointmag.co.uk%2Fcosmos-june-2018-carlo-rovelli-italian-take-on-time-and-space%2F\" target=\"_blank\"><i class=\"fab fa-whatsapp\"><\/i><\/a><a class=\"crunchify-link crunchify-linkedin\" href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/shareArticle?mini=true&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fstandpointmag.co.uk%2Fcosmos-june-2018-carlo-rovelli-italian-take-on-time-and-space%2F&amp;title=An+Italian+take+on+time+and+space\" target=\"_blank\"><i class=\"fab fa-linkedin-in\"><\/i><\/a><a class=\"crunchify-link crunchify-pinterest\" data-pin-custom=\"true\" href=\"https:\/\/pinterest.com\/pin\/create\/button\/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstandpointmag.co.uk%2Fcosmos-june-2018-carlo-rovelli-italian-take-on-time-and-space%2F&amp;media=https:\/\/standpointmag.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/files_u28_Cosmos_rovelli.jpg&amp;description=An+Italian+take+on+time+and+space\" target=\"_blank\"><i class=\"fab fa-pinterest\"><\/i><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><\/h3>\n<p>No related posts.<\/p>\n<h6>What to read next<\/h6>\n<h3><\/h3>\n<p>No related posts.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Events in the quantum world do not form an orderly queue but crowd around in a chaotic fashion<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":7067,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-756","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ondrocks2000.com\/standpoint\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/756","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ondrocks2000.com\/standpoint\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ondrocks2000.com\/standpoint\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ondrocks2000.com\/standpoint\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ondrocks2000.com\/standpoint\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=756"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/ondrocks2000.com\/standpoint\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/756\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ondrocks2000.com\/standpoint\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/7067"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ondrocks2000.com\/standpoint\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=756"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ondrocks2000.com\/standpoint\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=756"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ondrocks2000.com\/standpoint\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=756"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}