{"id":854,"date":"2010-08-27T15:26:55","date_gmt":"2010-08-27T15:26:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ondrocks2000.com\/standpoint\/2010\/08\/27\/does-park51-really-matter\/"},"modified":"2010-08-27T15:26:55","modified_gmt":"2010-08-27T15:26:55","slug":"does-park51-really-matter","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ondrocks2000.com\/standpoint\/2010\/08\/27\/does-park51-really-matter\/","title":{"rendered":"Does Park51 Really Matter?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>ALEXANDER MELEAGROU-HITCHENS<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>For the past week I have been in New York, and on Tuesday took the afternoon to visit Ground Zero and Park51, the site of the Cordoba Initiative\u2019s proposed Islamic centre.<\/p>\n<p><!--break-->\u00a0 <\/p>\n<p>As I pressed the timer on my watch in order to check how long it takes to walk from the former World Trade Centre to the Cordoba site, it dawned on me how absurd this whole issue really is; what distance would be appropriate? Should there be some sort of strictly enforced \u2018don\u2019t offend me\u2019 radius around Ground Zero?\u00a0 The next day, the <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2010\/08\/25\/nyregion\/25bloomberg.html\">New York Times<\/a> <\/em>reported that Mayor Bloomberg made exactly this point:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Mr. Bloomberg\u2026said he understood the impulse to find a different location, in the hope of ending the controversy.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n<p>\u201cBut it won\u2019t,\u201d the mayor said, \u201cThe question will then become, \u2018how big should the \u2018no-mosque zone\u2019 around the World Trade Center be?&#8217;\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Arriving at the site (it\u2019s about a three minute walk in case you were wondering), I saw three young New Yorkers holding up signs in support of the mosque.\u00a0 Wishing to get at least some idea of the nature of pro-Park51 New Yorkers, I discussed the issue with all of them and was pleasantly surprised: \u00a0they were normal, young liberals like me, able to balance an appreciation of the threat of Islamic jihad with an understanding that not all Muslims want to take over the world.\u00a0 It was difficult, however, to keep up a long discussion, as we were regularly interrupted by passers-by, many of them clearly against the plans.\u00a0 Two things struck me about these people: first, the main crux of their argument was that it is offensive to have an Islamic centre built so close to Ground Zero; and second, although they were clearly against the plan, they were unwilling to support any sort of ban on its construction.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/standpoint-cdn.trystandfirst.com\/uploads\/2019\/03\/files_u28_alex2_0.jpg\"\/><br \/><strong>Pro-Park51 New Yorkers<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/standpoint-cdn.trystandfirst.com\/uploads\/2019\/03\/files_u28_alex_3.jpg\"\/><br \/><strong>Things get heated<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>On the first point, this is simply not a valid argument, and one that was <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2010\/08\/25\/nyregion\/25bloomberg.html\">made recently<\/a> by a Democrat, Sheldon Silver, who is also the Speaker of the New York State Assembly. \u00a0In City Hall this week, he said that Cordoba \u201cshould take into very serious consideration the kind of turmoil that\u2019s been created and look to compromise.\u201d\u00a0 Instead, he hoped that they could find \u201ca suitable place that doesn\u2019t create the kind of controversy\u201d brought about by the Park51 plan.<\/p>\n<p>In any discussion about the construction of the Islamic centre, the <em>least<\/em> relevant point is that it is in some way an offensive act. \u00a0Comparisons with the Mohammed cartoons episode have already been <a href=\"http:\/\/online.wsj.com\/article\/NA_WSJ_PUB:SB10001424052748703632304575451433090488678.html\">made<\/a> in this debate, but it is worth repeating that, in order for the \u2018right to offend\u2019 argument to hold any sway, it must be allowed to go both ways.<\/p>\n<p>There are, however, a number of concerns that if they had any foundation, would be relevant. \u00a0Some of these include: <\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Islamic supremacism\/support for al-Qaeda \u2013 beginning with the most absurd accusations that have been leveled at the Cordoba Initiative, it is quite clear that they have no intention to use the site as some sort of celebratory shrine to bin Laden and the 9\/11 hijackers;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>Saudi money \u2013 considering the deep connection between Saudi Wahhabism and terrorism, this is a valid concern, but thus far there is no evidence to suggest any Saudi involvement. Indeed, even if money for the project does come from Saudi, although it would be worth protesting, there would still be no legal way to prevent it;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>Iranian money \u2013 it has been pointed out that the head of the organisation, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cordobainitiative.org\/?q=content\/what-president-obama-should-say-about-irans-election\">has voiced support<\/a> for the extremist Shiite Khomeinist concept of <em>Vilayet-i-faquih<\/em>, but there is no suggestion that he or Cordoba have any official connection with Iran. If they did, there are laws in the United States which could be used to stop the project;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>Islamist connections \u2013 Islamist ideology is a key inspiration for global jihadism, but again there is not enough evidence to level any such accusation at Imam Rauf or the Cordoba Initiative. They are not supporters of the Muslim Brotherhood, or any other global Islamist organisation.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>There is no question that the centre must be allowed to go ahead, and unless they are receiving Iranian government money, or plan to use the site to promote jihadist preachers, there is absolutely no legislation which could be used to stop it.\u00a0 However, for those of you hoping that the inevitable construction of the centre will prove once and for all that America is not at war with Islam and Muslims, I fear you will all be sorely disappointed.\u00a0 People who continue to peddle this idea, particularly Islamists, have no interest in conceding that they are wrong \u2013 in fact, they need it to be true.\u00a0 Take, for example, the reaction of some of the senior members of Egypt\u2019s Al-Azhar University, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.raymondibrahim.com\/7863\/top-muslims-condemn-ground-zero-mosque-as\">who are convinced<\/a> that far from being a symbol of Islamic supremacy, the project is an attempt to link 9\/11 with Islam, thus assisting in the ancient and ongoing Zionist-Western plot to destroy Islam.<\/p>\n<p>The majority of people who claim that there exists such a conspiracy do so on the basis of irrational ideas (see above), and using logical arguments will simply never convince them, and no one should waste their time trying to do so.\u00a0 <\/p>\n<p>A friend of mine, accepting my argument that this will not shake people out of their absolute conviction that America wants to eradicate them, told me that instead he holds out the hope that allowing the mosque will convince potential future recruits to Islamism that America does not hate them.\u00a0 This may be true, but it is also almost impossible to measure.\u00a0 Also, considering the myriad of anti-American conspiracy theories that (thanks to Islamists, and many others) are now accepted as gospel-like truths among many within the pool of potential Islamists, we will need far more than the building of an Islamic centre in Manhattan to effect any real change in attitudes.<\/p>\n<p>Park51 is not a conspiracy to promote extremist Islam, and nor is it an effort to destroy the entire religion, rather it is a (poorly judged) attempt to heal some very raw wounds in New York, and one that probably will not succeed in its mission. \u00a0There are far more important debates to be had about extremism, Islam and terrorism, and a year from now the most striking thing about this entire episode will be just how little difference it made to anything.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0 <\/p>\n<p>focusonislamism[at]standpointmag[dot]co[dot]uk<\/p>\n<p>@FocusonIslamism <\/p>\n<p><a class=\"crunchify-link crunchify-twitter\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?text=Does+Park51+Really+Matter%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fstandpointmag.co.uk%2Fdoes-park51-really-matter%2F&amp;via=Crunchify\" target=\"_blank\"><i class=\"fab fa-twitter\"><\/i><\/a><a class=\"crunchify-link crunchify-facebook\" 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